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tnkgrl
08:16 PM

In reply to The Best Smartphones on Every Carrier
Forget the Cliq - substitute with the N900 :)

Incidentally, that's what's in my pockets right now (Pre, Droid, 3GS, N900)...

Ah the joys of review units!
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nutbastard
08:10 PM

In reply to Apple Denying Support to Smokers?
One of the last remaining WWI veterans died the other day. he was 96, i believe. when asked about his longevity, and what enabled him to live for so long, he replied "cigarettes, whiskey, and wild women".

cigarettes are bad for some people, not so bad for others. I've been smoking for 8 or 9 years now, and have no diminished lung capacity. I can walk 30 miles in a day without slowing, and i dont really exercise. I can eat a pound of bacon in one sitting, and yet i'm still in good shape. i have ridiculously low blood pressure and i very rarely get sick.

then there are total pussies who can't deal with cold temperatures, with allergies out the yin yang, and a whole other miriad of health problems. they are the kind of people who should not smoke. but there exist many many people who, for whatever reason, are not adversely affected by tobacco products.

i know this is slightly OT since this isn't about smoking itself, but it always needs to be said: the current propaganda on smoking is just that: propaganda. it is simply a small step towards controlling more and more personal aspects of our lives in the name of 'public health'.
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Gary_7vn
05:15 PM

In reply to What to Do with an Original 1984 Macintosh?
Try and install Leopard. That should keep you busy for a while. Hint. You might need just more memory.
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Purple Dave
02:29 PM

In reply to Jerry Seinfeld Upgrades Classic Mac with iMac
Whew. For a moment there I was terrified that Mac-users were so obsessed with looking current that they went back into the old Seinfeld eps and digitally replaced the original Mac with one that didn't even exist in Steve Jobs' head when they were filmed. This, I care not about.
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The Lab
11:30 AM

In reply to The Best Smartphones on Every Carrier
Seeing two Motorola phones in the "best phones" article makes me feel like I'm in a time warp. I'm glad they're back, they make great quality handsets.
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Mr_Human
11:42 AM

@The Lab: Hah. Not in my experience. I loved my RAZR back in the day, but it was of poor build quality. Needed replacing several times.
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The Lab
02:31 PM

@Mr_Human: Yeah they fell apart, just less frequently than any other phone of that RAZR era. I mean, cast metal hinges, glass screens and laser cut metal keypads. What was made better than that, at the time? Not that Kyocera or LG crap. Possibly Sony Ericsson, they were good. I'd be happy to see them make a comeback as well.
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Noobs-R-Us
10:59 AM

In reply to According to Apple It's Your Own Fault if You Catch an iPhone Worm
Except you don't have Apple vetting your apps. How would changing you password prevent you from installing a malicious app? I don't get it?
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deanhatescoffee
12:57 PM

@Noobs-R-Us: The worms out there now rely on your password being "alpine" so that it can hack into your phone. If your password's different then it can't get in.
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Noobs-R-Us
01:01 PM

@deanhatescoffee: But that's not exactly the point is it? When you jailbreak and leave the Apple eco system and off the reservation you take your chances that something that looks like a great app could actually be malicious.

#tips
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tande04
10:58 AM

In reply to The Best Smartphones on Every Carrier
I guess I hadn't realized how quickly T-mobile had fallen.

Used to be there was no question you'd see the G1 on there but now admittedly its a little outdated and t-mobile insists on holding on to it.

Time to make something happen T-mobile.
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BroScience
11:01 AM

@tande04: it maybe older, but its not outdated. with some tweaks from XDA, it can hold its own against the Cliq.
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tande04
11:05 AM

@BroScience: No doubt but the fact its not on the list speaks volumes to me.

What I was really getting at was that the Cliq is a far inferior phone to the G1 in most ways.
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Badongadoodle
11:54 AM

@tande04: make a list of those inferior ways, please. if you are goint to drop a dump like that - back it up. Ah, and a .2" smaller screen dosnt count.
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MarcusMaximus
12:12 PM

@tande04: That's not really true. The Cliq is equal or better than the G1 in every way. The only way I could see an argument for it being lacking is that so far, as far as I've heard, there's been no luck at getting root on it. That's really just a matter of time, though, and it honestly took a while on the G1 as well.
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OCEntertainment
12:30 PM

@Badongadoodle: I'll offer some input if you promise to never use the phrase "back up that dump" again. ;-)

The CLIQ (last I checked) was running Android 1.5, which means it's already a generation behind. It also disqualifies it from the GPS app. Additionally, the MOTOBLUR interface is a questionable advantage at best. From what I've seen, the Facebook/Twitter integration gadgets are less than stellar and only provide a chaotic view of your network.

I don't think the G1 is head and shoulders above the CLIQ....but I do think it has a little more dignity. If nothing else because it gets the Google Experience branding instead of MOTOBLUR. Sense and Rachael were good improvements on top of Android. I'm less than convinced that MOTOBLUR has such an advantage.
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tande04
01:41 PM

@Badongadoodle: I'll defer to OCEntertainment here and go further and point out just general build qualities. If Moto put out the best they have with the droid then the cliq is certainly the worst. Every review of motoblur has been less than stellar. The widgets add little but sluggishness. The cliq may have more memory but you lose most of it just with blur (not to mention battery life, which on the g1 has been pretty damn good since 1.6).

Then there are other advantages that are debatable but often pointed out.
5 row QWERTY
Dedicated call keys
Secondary pointing device

So the real question would be what does the cliq have that the G1 doesn't?
5.0 camera which is always a debatable inclusion.

Really though I wasn't really trying to say that the G1 is out and out better. Regardless of any other argument I'd say that everyone agreed that the G1 was a flagship phone for t-mobile. I'm amazed if anyone could really say the same for the cliq. Hell even t-mobile still pimps the MyTouch more then they market the cliq.
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anexanhume
10:55 AM

In reply to The Best Smartphones on Every Carrier
After having owned an iPhone and now owning a Droid, I'd have to say no to the iphone having the best user interface. If for nothing else than the beautiful shade.
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tande04
11:09 AM

@anexanhume: I just think its funny that people only say that now that the droid came out.

Its the same thing its been from the beginning in most ways. Some tweaks here and there. People must love the flat icons.
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Badongadoodle
11:56 AM

@tande04: I dont know where you have been shopping, but how does a user interface differ with flat icons? Oh yeah, it does not.
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MarcusMaximus
12:16 PM

@anexanhume: As an owner of a G1, I'd agree with you. Also, the fact that the android marketplace isn't ruled over with an iron fist means that we get apps like SNESoid/Gameboid that will never be available on the App Store.
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tande04
01:30 PM

@Badongadoodle: That would be the point but thanks for playing.

Besides some changes in settings and other backend stuff what is the main difference between 2.0 and 1.6? Flat icons.

#tips
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OCEntertainment
05:12 PM

@MarcusMaximus: Thanks for tipping me off to what will likely be the complete ruination of my productivity forever.

*downloads Gameboid*
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Segador
10:53 AM

In reply to The Best Smartphones on Every Carrier
But...where's my N-Gage?
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Kaiser-Machead
10:37 AM

In reply to BassJump Brings MacBooks a Bit of Bump
I purchased a set of H/K soundsticks, and I'm sure they sound way way better than this setup for not much more (I paid just $20 more than this). Apple's site lists them for $169, but they can be had new for a great deal cheaper if you shop around.
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DustyButt™
10:30 AM

In reply to The Best Smartphones on Every Carrier
This thread is going to become a total flame fest. Oh well. I have to say. You shouldn't count jailbreaking as a feature. You should weigh the merits out of the box. As far as the iPhone, you shouldn't have to jailbreak or hack a phone to gain functionality.

Everyone has their needs but I have to say, after my real world usage, it's, at the very least, a dead heat between the Droid and the iPhone.

After 3 weeks with the Droid I don't miss my iPhone AT ALL. My only plan for my iPhone is to unlock it and use a prepaid sim when I travel overseas (I'm pretty sure that's possible, if not I'm not too worried).

WTF? ... a jailbroken iPhone on Tmo? Oh well. TMo coverage is trash anyway.
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jakemg
10:45 AM

@DustyButt™: I have a MT3G on Tmobile, and have no problems with coverage in the Chicago area, but I take it you're referring to nationwide coverage. I guess that's true. The fact that I got my phone, which is useable, but not the best, for $40 when I wasn't even eligible for an upgrade softens the blow a bit.
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DustyButt™
10:53 AM

@jakemg: Yeah, I tried to refine and edit my comment but my work browser and this site really don't get along.

Yes, Tmo national coverage is really bad for those who travel regionally.
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OMG! Ponies!
10:12 AM

In reply to The Best Smartphones on Every Carrier
matt,

You really need an editor. The best smartphone on AT&T is a Jailbroken iPhone.
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OCEntertainment
10:10 AM

In reply to The Best Smartphones on Every Carrier
Honestly the CLIQ seems almost highway robbery at $100, compared with all the other Android phones out there. The more I see of the CLIQ, the less I like it. For myself, I can't stant the iPhone and I'd call an unlocked iPhone the best on T-Mo, if the CLIQ is its competition. The fact that it has 3G powers doesn't overshoot what the iPhone can do. Caveat: if the CLIQ is running Android 1.6, and thus qualifies for the new Maps app, then...maybe.

Also: Droid for $150? Surprising and pleasing.
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fryhole
12:46 PM

@OCEntertainment: T-Mobile's phone prices should always be followed by a *. Side by side the $200 Cliq looks [LUDA]crous next to the $150 Droid, but the phone is more expensive because the plans are so much cheaper. On Verizon an equivalent all-you-can-eat plan costs about $40 more per month.
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OCEntertainment
12:57 PM

@fryhole: Well, the CLIQ is actually $100 at the linked Wal-Mart site (if you don't mind dealing with the devil ;-)). But your point is well-taken.

The thing to consider, though, is network quality. I've been pretty happy on T-Mobile for the most part. I don't get that great 3G reception in my house, but my building can account for a lot of that. When I travel Atlanta, I get pretty good 3G reception most of the time.

However back when I was on Verizon and I took a trip around the U.S, I managed to get cell reception from underneath the Rocky Mountains. I traveled around 20 or 30 states, most of them drive-through states. I never lost reception. This may not be a typical need, but if you do a lot of traveling, or if you don't live in a (sub)urban area, that extra money may be more than worth it.
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fryhole
06:17 PM

@OCEntertainment: There's no arguing with Verizon's network (please stop trying AT&T). I too am a former red head, but left after they just wouldn't get any phones I could stomach carrying. Of course, back then, you could buy European phones and have them work just the same as US phones on the T-mo network.

And if you think you have network beef with T-Mobile, try going to college in Iowa where local wireless provider (read:shittastly awful) Iowa Wireless provides all of the T-Mobile service in rural areas. Sprint and Verizon both have 3G here, but what does i-wireless have? Edge. Sometimes. Ahhh Iowa...how frontwards you are with technology.
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Joey Joe Joe Junior Shabadoo
10:07 AM

In reply to The Best Smartphones on Every Carrier

I'm pretty sure the Samsung M520 is the best phone you can get on sprint.
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UnderLoK
11:12 AM

@Joey Joe Joe Junior Shabadoo: Um... The Rant is better than that thing.
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AkkiRonin
09:04 AM

In reply to iPhone and Android Are Taking Over the (Mobile) Internet
The droid is already 24% of the Android market?!
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